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Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:20 pm
by Lum
A little while ago I was trying to convert a few of my songs to PAL format for curiosity's sake. I typically use this table on the wiki to help me select tempos. However, that table is only for NTSC mode, and I was unable to find an equivalent table for PAL. So I wrote a little script to take the Fxx sequences from the NTSC table and determine the PAL tempo that would result.

If you're a PAL gamer, or you just want to convert an NTSC FTM to PAL without ruining the tempo too much, I hope this will be of use :)

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(Remember to set the tempo to 125 instead of 150 when in PAL mode.)

BPM:       Fxx sequence:
83.33      9
85.71      9, 9, 9, 8
86.54      9, 9, 8
88.24      9, 8
90.00      9, 8, 8
90.91      9, 8, 8, 8
93.75      8
95.24      8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 7
96.77      8, 8, 8, 7
98.36      9, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7
100.00     8, 7
101.69     8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, 7, 7
103.45     8, 7, 7, 7
105.26     8, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7
107.14     7
109.09     7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 6
111.11     7, 7, 7, 6
112.50     7, 7, 6
113.21     8, 6, 7, 6, 7, 6, 7, 6
115.38     7, 6
117.65     7, 6, 7, 6, 7, 6, 6, 6
118.42     7, 6, 6
120.00     7, 6, 6, 6
122.45     7, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6
125.00     6
127.66     6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 5
130.43     6, 6, 6, 5
132.35     6, 6, 5
133.33     7, 5, 6, 5, 6, 5, 6, 5
136.36     6, 5
139.53     6, 5, 6, 5, 6, 5, 5, 5
140.63     6, 5, 5
142.86     6, 5, 5, 5
146.34     6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5
150.00     5
153.85     5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4
157.89     5, 5, 5, 4
160.71     5, 5, 4
162.16     6, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4
166.67     5, 4
171.43     5, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4
173.08     5, 4, 4
176.47     5, 4, 4, 4
181.82     5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
187.50     4
193.55     4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 3
200.00     4, 4, 4, 3
204.55     4, 4, 3
206.90     5, 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 3
214.29     4, 3
222.22     4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3
225.00     4, 3, 3
230.77     4, 3, 3, 3
240.00     4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3
250.00     3
272.73     3, 3, 3, 2
281.25     3, 3, 2
300.00     3, 2
321.43     3, 2, 2
333.33     3, 2, 2, 2
375.00     2
750.00     1

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:44 am
by Stratelier
I say let's add this to the wikipage. (I already tried, but got errors. :( )

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:49 am
by HertzDevil
Will that page become any more useful just because someone appends all the values divided by 1.2?

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:56 am
by Stratelier
Well, since you put it that way ... yes.

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:37 pm
by Lum
HertzDevil wrote:Will that page become any more useful just because someone appends all the values divided by 1.2?

The script I used calculates PAL BPM as 750 divided by the mean of all the numbers in the Fxx sequence. They're not based on the rounded NTSC values, so they should be a little more accurate. Ironically, I just updated the table because it turns out a few things weren't rounded properly. Whoops. That's what I get for not scrutinizing things.

I wasn't planning on posting this table to the wiki, but I can't imagine it doing any harm. At the moment, anyone who wants stable tempos in PAL either has to find this thread or make their own table. I don't know, what do you guys think? Should it go on the wiki?

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:18 am
by Raijin
Why not add it to the wiki? Might as well be there as well.

Re: Common Tempo Values for PAL

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:29 am
by Lum
I just tried adding it to the wiki, and got the same errors Stratelier posted here. Doesn't look like anything will be going on the wiki until this is fixed.