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Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:29 pm
by Threxx
MiniMacro wrote:Making DPCM tom instruments, The Immortal sawtooth DPCM wave, DPCM triangle/pulse wave, orchestra hits, etc.


ONCE AGAIN

DPCM PITCHING IS NON-CHROMATIC

THERE IS NO USE FOR THIS FUNCTION

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:41 pm
by MiniMacro
Several games used pitched DPCM samples.
But this suggested feature just puts the sample on all the slots in an octave. I don't know why that wouldn't be useful.
I've seen some songs made in FT that use a full set of pitched DPCM toms.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:44 pm
by James_S
jesus christ smallbig stop making stuff up to defend your idea, as threxx has stated many, many times dpcm is non chromatic and does not correspond to the notes played at all.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:47 pm
by MiniMacro
I know that DPCM is not chromatic.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:51 pm
by jaxcheese
I think what he's trying to say is that the same sample at the same pitch would be applied to every note on the octave - simply for the purpose of not having to search for the key it was assigned to? Correct me if I interpreted that wrong, but it seems like something like that would just result in disorganization, and you could already set it up that way yourself fairly easily if you really wanted it that way.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:04 pm
by MiniMacro
Yes, jaxcheese, that's what I've been trying to say.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:13 pm
by Stratelier
Threxx wrote:Regardless, I still fail to see how this feature has any merit.

I thought he meant having the DPCM playback rate scaled to whatever pitch it's assigned to, kinda like how the SNES handles its instrument patches. Then we wouldn't need separate DPCM patches for what is effectively the same sound, but that does feel beyond the limits of the NES hardware so it's out.

jaxcheese wrote:I think what he's trying to say is that the same sample at the same pitch would be applied to every note on the octave - simply for the purpose of not having to search for the key it was assigned to? Correct me if I interpreted that wrong, but it seems like something like that would just result in disorganization, and you could already set it up that way yourself fairly easily if you really wanted it that way.

Okay, this I could see, but then you're effectively limiting yourself to a total of 8 DPCM patches (one per octave) and that could be a larger problem.

As an alternative, maybe these could work:
- When you track a note on the DPCM channel, if there's no DPCM patch for what you input then highlight that note red and suggest an assigned DPCM note to 'snap' it to.
- Option to switch the DPCM channel between displaying notes chromatically (e.g. C-4) or not (48).

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:15 pm
by MiniMacro
Now, Stratelier, that could work.

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:25 pm
by Threxx
Alternatively you could not be a lazy fuck and just do it normally like everyone else

Re: "Apply to all slots" for DPCM

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:26 pm
by 8BitZtunerYT
^ Please, listen to him.