7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

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7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby Reactinator304 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:21 pm

So I've been using FamiTracker for a couple years now, and have a folder filled with 170 songs I've started, few of which I consider to be in a usable state. Lately, I've been getting a better grasp on the orchestration, rhythm, and notation. The main thing I lack in is the Instrument editor. (Well, that and some of the stuff regarding soundchips other than 2A03, VRC6, and MMC5) I was hoping someone could give me a tutorial in the finer aspects of instrumentation with FamiTracker, so that I can both enter a song of mine in a contest or two, and use it personally.

Here are 6 recent original songs I've made, as well as a song I made a while back and the edit someone helped me with before:
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Z Random song 71.ftm
No idea what it sounds like, hence the odd name
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Z random song 71 edit.ftm
This is the version edited for me by another user
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WIP EndLine.ftm
Reminds me of the Atmosphere of DKC's Mine Cart Levels
(12.79 KiB) Downloaded 66 times
Untitled No. 2.ftm
Meant to Emulate a Heroic Charge Into Battle
(5.46 KiB) Downloaded 57 times
Untitled No. 1.ftm
Spy Mission Based
(6.02 KiB) Downloaded 62 times
Raid Mix.ftm
Raid on Enemy Base
(11.35 KiB) Downloaded 65 times
Gypts.ftm
Meant to Emulate a somewhat Egyptian Desert Feel
(6.84 KiB) Downloaded 59 times
Ebbin' Flow.ftm
Rising Challenger From the Depths of the Sea
(5.31 KiB) Downloaded 65 times

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Re: 7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby Teuthida » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:43 pm

What particular parts of the instrument editor don't you understand? If you tell me, I can give better advice.
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Re: 7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby Reactinator304 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:33 am

I understand most of the volume part, and a little bit about duty/noise, but the rest I've seen others use and have no idea how to use them well. I cant tell what makes it better or worse through those. that would be mainly the DPCM, but also a little bit in tuning with pitch and fine pitch, and then the different editor modes like in VRC7, FDS, and N163. I'd also love to be able to put together a soundchip configuration using more than one type. My aim is to try and make the instruments sound more like real instruments to differentiate them, rather than relying on the Vxx Command and multiple octaves. i.e. piano sounds, guitar, etc. I'm trying to understand how to make the sound waves resemble something else I guess.

So, like, for Ebbin' Flow, I'm trying to get the 2A03 Pulse 2 Column to sound more bubbly, like they're coming up from the bottom of the ocean

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Re: 7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby Teuthida » Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:40 am

The key to stuff like that is practice and experimentation. I'd recommend finding Famitracker songs that contain something like what you're looking for and study what makes them sound like they do. Should that fail, just mess around with the instrument settings and take note of what each setting makes.
Although I'm still relatively new to Famitracker, I do know how to make a few instruments. For instance, a piano is usually a V02 or V01 coupled with Axx effects, an acoustic guitar tends to be V01, and a flute can either be V02 with an upwards volume slide at the start or just the triangle channel.
It's important to remember that unless you're using advanced chips like VRC7 and N163, your instruments will likely not sound just like real ones. Also, keep in mind that "Vxx command and multiple octaves" is what differentiates most NES instruments.
Additionally, to make the "bubbly" sound you're talking about, I'd make the instrument start one octave lower and then quickly jump to the regular octave. V02 and a short, punchy volume macro can help with this, too.
I hope this helps you out. I'm sorry if this got a little textwall-y!
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Re: 7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby Reactinator304 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:01 am

That'll be pretty useful to start with.

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Re: 7 songs, looking for someone to teach me more about intrument editing

Postby graypesoda » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:12 am

If you'd like to discuss some things in a little more detail, feel free to message me on skype @graypesoda. I'd be happy to do a quick little tutorial with you!