2A03 experiment: creating sawtooth waves from the triangle channel

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2A03 experiment: creating sawtooth waves from the triangle channel

Postby Lum » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:39 pm

Hey all!

Recently I was mulling over ways I could possibly produce a true sawtooth wave on the NES without expansion chips. It can't really be done with DPCM samples, you'll get something that more closely resembles a triangle wave. I've seen demos that successfully pull it off by rapidly writing to the DPCM's delta counter as if it were a raw PCM sample, and while that works, it's computationally expensive and can't be done in FamiTracker (and certainly not during an actual game).

So I thought, could this be done with the triangle wave? After all, if you were able to cut the triangle's wave pattern in half you'd end up with a sawtooth. So I tried it out, and it turns out you kind of can, albeit in a limited and slightly out-of-tune way. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement here, but take a look:

tri_saw_test.ftm
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The main issue was figuring out how to reset the triangle's output level to create a "pop". It's harder than it sounds - the output level doesn't simply reset when you silence the triangle as one would expect. However, it turns out by playing either the highest or second-highest possible frequency, you can get the triangle to instantly switch to an output level of 7.5. Bingo. While FamiTracker doesn't technically allow notes that high, using a value of -127 in a hi-pitch macro will accomplish that task.

The other issue is that to do this in FamiTracker you have to crank the engine speed way up - in this case I turned it up to 1000 Hz. However, I would assume that if something like this were implemented in an actual game, the engine speed could be left at 60 Hz and only the triangle's hi-pitch macro would need to run at such a high speed. By my calculations it could probably be done with a scanline counter triggering an interrupt every ~16 scanlines or so (that wouldn't result in exactly 1000 Hz like that FTM there, so the pitch would be different, but it'd be in that ballpark.) I think that would still leave enough processing time for an actual game to take place.


So, what do you guys think about this? Could a trick like this be useful for 2A03 composition/homebrews/demos?

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Re: 2A03 experiment: creating sawtooth waves from the triangle channel

Postby Tobikomi » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:53 pm

This is fucking genius! Kudos to you!
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Re: 2A03 experiment: creating sawtooth waves from the triangle channel

Postby Rarest_lizard038 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:04 pm

Oh jeez. The metagame is evolving. This seems so unreal!

This trick could easily any song sound like its being played on the vrc6!


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